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Author Topic: PC5204 - Bell Output not beeping on exit or entry delay/countdown  (Read 894 times)

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Hi

I have a siren connected to my PC5204 module - and I can confirm it goes off when in alarm mode.

However what it does not do is beep during the exit or entry delay countdown ?

I have checked sections 014 and 015 and all seem to be set correctly with bell output enabled  - hence I'm confused what's wrong - am maybe missing something ?
« Last Edit: July 18, 2017, 06:39:42 AM by nodecentral »

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Re: PC5204 - Bell Output not beeping on exit or entry delay/countdown
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2017, 10:53:53 AM »
The bell output on the PC5204 does not sound during the entry or exit delay. If you want the output to sound during entry and exit delay try output type 07 keypad buzzer follower. This will not give you an output on alarm.
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Re: PC5204 - Bell Output not beeping on exit or entry delay/countdown
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2017, 08:50:13 PM »
... and just to add...

"...squawks the bell output..."  which is the bell output on the panel, not the power supply outputs.
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Re: PC5204 - Bell Output not beeping on exit or entry delay/countdown
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2017, 09:13:21 PM »
Node, you've been at this for a while... is your house Cheyenne Mountain cause it sounds like you are spending a fortune.
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Re: PC5204 - Bell Output not beeping on exit or entry delay/countdown
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2017, 10:07:20 PM »
Why would you say that?  A simple AUX power supply is not a "fortune".
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Re: PC5204 - Bell Output not beeping on exit or entry delay/countdown
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2017, 10:47:11 PM »
Just curious on system size, not meaning to be offensive by any means. just sounds like he has a pretty vast set up.
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Re: PC5204 - Bell Output not beeping on exit or entry delay/countdown
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2017, 12:14:02 AM »
Thanks all :)

@securitydude123 - I don't think my home system is anything major, it's a mix of new and second hand (eBay) purchases..

1 x PC1864
2 x PTK5507 touchscreen keypads
1 x PC5108 Zone Expansion Module
1 x RF5132-433 Wireless Receiver
1 x PC5204 Additional Power
1 x IT-100 Module

5 x wireless PIRs
2 x wireless door/window
5 x wired PIRs

1. Vera 3 Home Automation System

Note : The alarm panel is in the loft with no siren connected - therefore the only siren is connected to the PC5204 Module, which is downstairs, powering the hallway keypad.

...  Being my very first install, it's been a labour of love to get all the modules I wanted and then to set it up (so it also work with my HA set up too)

Due to some much needed renovation work (which was the trigger to install the alarm system ) , I've had to do all the work in stages, but I'm pretty much there now. It's just the last subtle configuration settings I'm making (or becoming aware of)

@ dilligaff - The keypads were both already set up to beep; but due to the noise from the road and thickness of the front door - you can't hear the beeps when you are outside - just to know it's finished etc.
« Last Edit: July 19, 2017, 12:20:19 AM by nodecentral »

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Re: PC5204 - Bell Output not beeping on exit or entry delay/countdown
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2017, 07:14:55 AM »
Throw a status LED on another output.  You won't have an annoying siren squak.
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Re: PC5204 - Bell Output not beeping on exit or entry delay/countdown
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2017, 07:37:18 AM »
Throw a status LED on another output.  You won't have an annoying siren squak.

Interesting idea, how would I do that exactly ?
Is that via a PGM (if so, they seem tricky to set up)

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Re: PC5204 - Bell Output not beeping on exit or entry delay/countdown
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2017, 11:56:27 AM »
DSC makes  a status LED  that connects to the keybus and gives you the following conditions

1. Ready to Arm Solid Green
2. Not Ready to Arm Flashing Green
3. Armed Stay Solid Red
4. Armed Away Flashing Red
5. Alarm has been Activated Flashing Amber
 
the pc5601 module requires no programming and mounts to a single gang box.
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Re: PC5204 - Bell Output not beeping on exit or entry delay/countdown
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2017, 11:44:38 PM »
I agree.  The status LED module is a very easy add-on and they're not that expensive.  They connect right to the keybus and require no programming. 

Short of that, yes, you can use any PGM on the system, even a PGM on a keypad.  For our elderly getting-hard-of-hearing customers, or for areas that need an audible warning where there is no keypad nearby, we connect one of those little black piezos to a PGM following the keypad sounder.  They are obnoxiously loud, however, about as loud as your siren.  Chimes, like the ADI brand single-gang chime can be used, but the keypad PGM cannot support that current draw.  It has to go straight to the panel's PGM.  The PGM is basically a switched negative, but it's a solid state output through the panel's PCB, there is no relay, so therefore, the current limit is pretty low.  maybe 50mA or so.  You can drive a decent piezo, LED, or combination of the two at 50mA.  Or, you can use the PGM to trigger an RBSN relay.
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Re: PC5204 - Bell Output not beeping on exit or entry delay/countdown
« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2017, 11:14:48 PM »
Thanks again for everyone's help on this.

To help me close this thread out , lets say I'm going to add a 12v Siren, something like this (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Piezo-Soundbomb-Siren-Alarm-Mounting/dp/B0144VWO68/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1502492478&sr=8-14&keywords=12v+siren)..

Wire

Siren+  -->   Aux +
Siren -  -->   PGM 1
Is a resistor needed too ?

Then to program the PGM output I would..

*8      -- Enter installer mode
5555  -- Enter installer password
009    -- Enter PGM option section
07      -- Keyboard Buzzer Follow.
TBC??



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Re: PC5204 - Bell Output not beeping on exit or entry delay/countdown
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2017, 12:09:41 AM »
Looks good.  Resistor is not needed.
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