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Author Topic: DSC 832 - Zone Fault: Fire Zone  (Read 1106 times)

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DSC 832 - Zone Fault: Fire Zone
« on: July 28, 2017, 07:41:27 AM »
Hello.

I have tried to clear the trouble, in vain. My DSC 832 shows: "Zone Fault: Fire Zone" error.

The only thing I can think of is I removed a smoke detector. I then removed the associated zone (30) in the DSC, but the Zone Fault: Fire Zone stayed on.

How can I troubleshoot/bypass this message?

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Re: DSC 832 - Zone Fault: Fire Zone
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2017, 10:00:23 AM »
The thing to have done was to delete the zone in programming first.

Try power-cycling the system.  Remove AC (unplug transformer) and battery (disconnect leads).  Wait 60 seconds.  Power system back up (AC and battery).  Doing this, you will need to reprogram the system date and time.
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Re: DSC 832 - Zone Fault: Fire Zone
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2017, 11:26:36 PM »
When you delete a zone on a DSC, you have to remove it from the partition.  Sometimes, zeroing out the zone type doesn't always do it.  If it's wireless, go into [804] and zero out the serial number as well.
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Re: DSC 832 - Zone Fault: Fire Zone
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2017, 09:51:20 PM »
The thing to have done was to delete the zone in programming first.

Try power-cycling the system.  Remove AC (unplug transformer) and battery (disconnect leads).  Wait 60 seconds.  Power system back up (AC and battery).  Doing this, you will need to reprogram the system date and time.

I did that, had to reset the time, but it did not clear the Fire Zone trouble.

When you delete a zone on a DSC, you have to remove it from the partition.  Sometimes, zeroing out the zone type doesn't always do it.  If it's wireless, go into [804] and zero out the serial number as well.

The smoke detector was wired. Do I still need to do that? What commands should I enter?

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Re: DSC 832 - Zone Fault: Fire Zone
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2017, 05:52:13 AM »
For hardwired zone, program the zone for 00 (null zone) and remove it from the partition...
* 8 xxxx 205 bit 6 turn OFF (zone 30) ##

Since the system is hardwired, is it programmed for EOLRs on all zones?  If so, throw a 5.6Kohm resistor on zone 30 terminals.
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Re: DSC 832 - Zone Fault: Fire Zone
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2017, 05:04:45 AM »
Thank you AlarmMike.

I did that, reboot the alarm, reset the clock and unfortunately the Zone Fault Fire Zone was still here.

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Re: DSC 832 - Zone Fault: Fire Zone
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2017, 06:12:58 AM »
You didn't say if the panel is programmed for NC or NO w/EOLRs.
Did you put a 5.6Kohm EOLR on zone 30 terminals on the PC5108 expander?

Put the EOLR on the board terminals.
Program that zone for type 08 (hardwire smoke) again.
Turn bit 6 on in 205 again.

Power cycle the system again if it still shows trouble.
This should clear the trouble.
If it does clear, try changing the zone to type 01, exit programming, check for trouble.
If still good, change it to a null zone, type 00.
If an EOLR solves the issue in general, you make have a bad zone and need to leave it on the terminals.
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Re: DSC 832 - Zone Fault: Fire Zone
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2017, 02:28:46 AM »
This is a long shot....   do you have 2-wire smoke detectors?  Those get wired to PGM 2 on the board.  It could be that there are some fire devices on zone 30 like heat detectors or 4-wire smokes, but you have another fire zone or the PGM2 where you removed the detector.  Some of those older 5010s won't tell you specifically which fire zone is in trouble if you have multiple fire zones.  You can try strapping a 2.2k resistor across PGM2 and aux+ and seeing if that clears the trouble.  When I get intermittent fire zone troubles on those 5010s, I have to temporarily set them all to 24-hour holdup so that it logs and reports the actual zone.  Just another DSC quirk. 
« Last Edit: August 01, 2017, 02:31:02 AM by Magnum Alert »
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