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5809 heat detector
« on: August 09, 2018, 07:00:22 PM »
can I put a 194 degree fixed temp heat detector on a Honeywell 5809? Example

Edwards Signaling 284B-PL Det Heat 194B Fixed
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Re: 5809 heat detector
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2018, 05:33:04 AM »
Not sure about your question.  The 5809 is in itself a combo fixed heat and rate of rise heat sensor.
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Re: 5809 heat detector
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2018, 10:24:32 AM »
I want to put in the garage and I know either a 135 R of R or Fixed will trip as it gets pretty warm here and being in a confined will add to the temp

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Re: 5809 heat detector
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2018, 02:51:41 PM »
I want to put in the garage and I know either a 135 R of R or Fixed will trip as it gets pretty warm here and being in a confined will add to the temp

If your looking for wireless heat detection only on a Honeywell system with a 194 degree why not install a 284B-PL connected to a Honeywell 5816ís closed circuit contact loop. The 284B-PL is an unpowered normally open device so it should work fine.

In my garage I only use (wired) heat detectors and not smoke detectors for concern that exhaust fumes may set off smokes.

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Re: 5809 heat detector
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2018, 03:42:19 PM »
A caution with this plan which may or may not be a problem depending on where you live. A "rate-of-rise" detector is also a "rate-of-fall" detector. If you live an an area where it gets very cold outside and your garage is either heated or unheated but very warm, think what happens when you open that garage door on a very cold day. A rush of cold air comes in to the much warmer garage. The ROR detector will see that very fast temperature change and activate. I live in Illinois and learned this the hard way. I changed to fixed temp and had no further problems.

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Re: 5809 heat detector
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2018, 04:17:00 PM »
the 5809 is a 135 degree detector.  It's the only model of wireless heat detector that Honeywell makes.   I have had them pop in attics more times than I can remember.  Also, attics are a bad choice for anything electronic or wireless because of heat.  This is my usual solution, to install a higher temperature 194/200 degree heat detector and wire it to a supervised transmitter.

a 5816 will not work, as it's input is normally closed.  You want the 5817CB, that has a supervised normally open loop.  Get yourself a System Sensor 5604 or other mechanical heat detector of your choice, and install it in the area you need protection.  Run a wire from the detector to an area that isn't so hot.  Typically, the bottom of the attic stairs or the area just under the access hatch work just fine, and install your 5817CB there.  That's the transmitter, out of the heat in a nice cool area.  It's wired to the heat detector in a hotter area.   NEVER had a problem!  Just do it.

I would NOT recommend trying to rig a higher temperature detector onto a 5809 transmitter.  At the very least, you'll be voiding the UL listing.  And again, if it's too hot for a 135 degree heat detector, it's too hot for a wireless transmitter.
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Re: 5809 heat detector
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2018, 09:08:36 PM »
I used the 5809 heat detector in the garage and so far no false alarms as we had temps in the upper 90's and inside the garage it got up to 110. I think I'll be ok.

 

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