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Author Topic: Is there anything like a stairway motion sensor?  (Read 473 times)

phalse

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Is there anything like a stairway motion sensor?
« on: September 09, 2018, 08:32:10 PM »
Hey all,
I just had a quick question, does anyone know of any stairway motion sensors or even better, a laser for individual stair treads?
I have a powerseries 1864, and was hoping I could find something like that for stairs.

I wouldn't image it would take much, (just a photo sensor and a light source).

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Re: Is there anything like a stairway motion sensor?
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2018, 12:55:01 AM »
Not sure what you're trying to accomplish, but you might look at the Visonic Spy motion sensor.  Small, discreet.
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Re: Is there anything like a stairway motion sensor?
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2018, 02:31:23 AM »
If you can get a wire to an individual stair tread just install a pressure mat under whatever you have as a floor covering, or attach a stress sensor to the underside of the tread.
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Re: Is there anything like a stairway motion sensor?
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2018, 04:12:48 PM »
Not sure what you're trying to accomplish, but you might look at the Visonic Spy motion sensor.  Small, discreet.

Will this integrate with my current DSC system?
I'd like to have some way of monitoring a short range motion (like a stairway).

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Re: Is there anything like a stairway motion sensor?
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2018, 09:06:24 PM »
Yes.  It is a hardwire sensor which are normally compatible across all the major manufacturers.

Do you have any pets?
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Re: Is there anything like a stairway motion sensor?
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2018, 08:29:27 AM »
Yes, cat and large dog. 

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Re: Is there anything like a stairway motion sensor?
« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2018, 03:32:58 AM »
Ok then.  You'll probably need to stay away from any type of PIR on a stairwell unless you create a pet alley.
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Re: Is there anything like a stairway motion sensor?
« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2018, 11:06:54 AM »
https://www.surveillance-video.com/security-903pr.html This is a pressure mat that will take up to 60 pound pets

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Re: Is there anything like a stairway motion sensor?
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2018, 03:59:32 PM »
Just be aware that motion sensors or pressure mats that are designed to "take up to 60 pound pets" are pet-TOLERANT,  _NOT_ "Pet Immune".  The phrase "Pet Immune" is an advertising myth that techs have to live with. 

The 60-pound-pet-tolerant mat will tolerate a 60 pound dog walking up/down the stairs, but a jumping 60-pound dog will exert the force of a 300-pound man walking.

I made those numbers up but the principle applies.  The pressure mat is going to "see" a dog playfully chasing your cat up the stairs differently than it sees the dog walking calmly up the stairs. Or a dog bounding down the stairs because Master's at the front door.

I don't want to scare you off the idea entirely--it may very well work--but be aware that it can be very difficult to design interior protection around pets.  There are no guarantees.

EDIT: And BTW, an awful lot of pets act differently when their humans are present than they do when they're alone. 
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Re: Is there anything like a stairway motion sensor?
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2018, 04:23:45 PM »
We had a guy around here who installed sensors onto floor joists in the basement.  They would reliably detect someone walking on the floor above.  It was maybe 2" long, and got connected to a processor board in the panel.  It had to be synchronized or something, I've only seen them and never had to work on them, but he did tell me that the floor could not be touched for a few days while the processor board "learned" the normal characteristics of the floor with nobody on it.

I forget the brand name or product, but my faint memory recalls something about it being for the mobile home market.  Whatever it was, they worked great.  We took these accounts over and never had false alarm problems with them, even with pets.
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