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I understand the max battery std is based on the system's charge rate. So, a larger battery does take longer to recharge and could run up against UL rules. My interest, like yours, is in longer run times. I use 35AH sealed deep cycle batteries in my 20p systems and have for many years. My run times are well over a week. Yes, they do take longer to recharge. Obviously, these larger batteries will not fit in the metal box with the 20p.

Perhaps, in a camping environment, you would have the system off in transit anyway, so you could charge it with the tow vehicle to get a rapid charge.

Best of luck.

I would start with checking the operation of the contact on that door, it probably just took a surge from the power outage and got fused together inside.  If you have an old Z1100, and the contact is as old as the panel, that's probably the issue.

The contact can be checked with a basic volt/ohmmeter or continuity tester, or you can just set the door chime on or arm the system, and disconnect one of the loop wires from that zone in the panel.  If the keypad chimes or goes into entry delay, the panel is fine and the contact is likely just bad.
Alarm Installers Tips and Tricks / Re: question about Vista 20p zone expansion
« Last post by Magnum Alert on February 20, 2019, 06:42:05 PM »
You'll be fine with 4-conductor for your motion detectors.  You're probably looking at the tamper switch contacts on another zone.  That's probably a UL burglary or mercantile requirement, but even in such locations, I've never seen them used.  If you _really_ want the tamper switch wired in, just connect it in series with the alarm relay.

Sounds like you've got your partitioning right.
I don't think any of us are trying to be snarky.  When it comes to installing, no two places are the same.  It's not going to be easy to teach someone the trade in a classroom.  Maybe it's easy for us to say that when we've had to deal with the disaster installs by the large companies that DO try to train their installers this way and can't get a wireless system right.  (I can speak from experience).

Honestly, right now, I wish our supplier, ADI would offer an alarm systems 101 course like what you're asking.  We need techs and it's very difficult to take green people who don't know a motion from a glassbreak, and get them trained on everything they might run into, especially when you're doing service calls on everything.  There are training expos (I use the term lightly, but it's really a sales push) but nothing is "this is basic circuitry".

If you want to undertake the task, we are here to help.
I'll be installing a Vista 20P panel in a camper/trailer that will not have a phone line or internet connection, so cellular will be my only option.  I want to self-monitor, but I'd like something with full remote control and push notifications.  I see there are a few options - totalconnect,, IpDatatel... am I missing anything?

What is everyone's experience with these various options, and what would you recommend?  They all have compelling features.

It doesn't necessarily need to be higher current to charge the battery, it just takes longer.  I've charged 79 amp hour telco batteries with a 1amp charger.  So ... I assume that maybe there's some SIA or UL requirement for maximum charge-to-full time?
   Ah ok so there are no separate alarm installing courses for the average person ...

   I mean no offence guys , but a more sensitive person than I might get very offended by these ( again no offence ) unnecessarily snarky posts , but I have broad shoulders so no muss no fuss on my part .

  Anyways thanks for the answers .
I have an 1864 with a TL2603GR communicator, which is a dual path communicator (internet and cell tower). It connects to my home intranet, and I use DLS to program and monitor my system from within my home. The connection is pretty straight forward as long as you know the intranet IP address (as assigned by your router, not the one assigned by your internet provider to your home), the communicator password, the SIM card number, the DLS access code, and the panel ID code. All of these parameter can be obtained from the keypad if you don't already have them.  I'm not familiar with the communicators you listed, but I have to believe that they would be similar.  Good luck.
Yes. I do have the manual.  I just wasn't clear on locking the pin.  Thanks for the info.
Alarm Installers Tips and Tricks / Re: question about Vista 20p zone expansion
« Last post by aznative on February 19, 2019, 10:17:11 AM »
For interior protection I hardwired all of the interior doors with magnetic reed switches.  The family hated taking the time to make sure all 10 doors were closed.  I'm  reducing the number of these protected interior doors to two to protect the panel and one is to protect a safe.   The living room, family room/kitchen and master bedroom are protected with two PIRs per room.  The other three bedrooms will be protected with a single pir per room.  I plan on only protecting the two interior doors while out of town overnight.  With the amount of PIRS it will be hard for an intruder to get to these rooms anyway.   I plan on doing this by using partition 2.  I will program these two zones into partition 2.   I know I will need to set at least one keypad data field *190 to both partition 1 & 2 which is a "3"in the partition field.   I will simply use an assigned entry/exit code that is assigned to partition two that will have to be used to arm/disarm these two zones.  Does this sound like the best way to achieve this plan?

Thanks for all of the help
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